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Nancypj
Member
08-17-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 9:02 pm 
In HOH, A telling Nik her reasoning behind noms. Telling Nik she told her she wasn't going to backdoor Marv. Nik says Marv is a good guy. A says we are down to nine people who are pretty good people. I had to put two people up. Rules of the game. I told Will if he doesn't trust me, put me up next week. So be it. There is no way I can see him going this week.
Nik says she understands, but trying to figure out votes. Says that only Drew and CB would be the ones to vote for Marv to stay. A points out that CB does not like MArvin.
A says she is a positive player. She doesn't play pawns. She doesn't see Will or Marv as a pawn. Doesn't even like the word. She felt that Will, from a team standpoint, nothing more than a pinch hitter. It is a great place to be in.
Nik says that speaking from someone detached, people are really nervous because you didn't tell anyone who you were putting up. Freaked them out. Now they are like OK, now this happens, this happens, no pawn, so it makes it look like A wants both people to leave. Nik says she will talk to people. (ed -- will be interesting to see if she does, and what she says...)
A says people need to be honest. Says her decisions came to her in her prayers. She felt like people don't know and trust her. She figured she would take HOH on her back.
Nik says they know her, but they don't know her. Nik says she trusts her. Trusts Nat too. Comes down to do they really know her. Half of what they know is you, half is Nat. Still trying to figure out which was A and which was Nat. Says she trusts her. Iffy on her decision, but trusts her. Understands better now what she is trying to do.
A says she doesn't understand why Marvin is such a shock. Two people have to go up. Can you think of another person who wouldn't be a shock.
Nik says it isn't so much who she put up, as how she did it. Could have told Will he was a pawn.
A says she didn't know she was going up. Biggest eye opener for her in the game.
Nik says she understands where she is coming from. She didn't know Drew was putting her up. Nik says being religious, something A sees as an eye opening experience may not be for someone else.
Nik says she was worried. Last night A told Nik that someone wanted Will gone because he smacks. A says she never said that. Nik says she though she did. A says Will doesn't even smack. Nik says he does, but whatever. (ed - she now realizes she misinformed those outside...wonder if she will set the record straight...)
A says there are not people she feels she can ask for their true feelings. Asked Will what he thought today. A says she felt like it wasn't a team any more.
Nik says that is where they are all on different pages. You have to think a week ahead, but you don't know who is going to have HOH.
A says last week was like her first in the house. Didn't feel like she had a team. (talking fast..)
Nik says they have to get everyone in there tonight to be sure they are all on the same page. Says she knows she wasn't in the house. Feelings can get misconstrued. Says if she is not shocked, she's fine. Twins in hard situations. Hard to know what has or has not been said.
A says that is why Nat was not in on her decision today. She is trying to figure things out the same way I am doing. (Starts to cry again). Says the others are in a different boat. Expects them to be together. Expects them to...(pauses) "I know that it takes time to build trust, and I haven't had the time to do that." Says the reason she made her decisions...whatever happens hopes there will be a positive and won't have any regrets.
Nik says how she just explained it to her about trust. And how it takes time. They have known "them" for the whole time, but twins have only known them for half the time.
A says people can't handle people her. Laying it on the line.
Nik says this is a game of repetition. They go along, go along, go along. Then, SURPRISE! There's two of us. I'm here! I trust y'all! Don't look at my mole or anything....
Now talking about Nik in HOH. Nik says A never came in. Nik says door was unlocked. A says she never felt she COULD.
Nik says they need to talk. There are now two Adrias. Last week was a dead week. People didn't talk "strategery".
Nik says as a single player in the game she trusts A and Nat completely. It's whenever stuff like this happens...blind faith is faith, but I don't like finding things out at the last second. Bad news is better than no news at all.
A says if they don't know what is going on, why don't people ask. Nik says because she didn't know others felt like that until they were talking in yard. A says when they keep you in the DR half the day, it is tough to talk to people.
Nik thought it was between CB and Marv. A says she never knew that. All she heard was either I want CB gone or I want Marv gone.
Nik says lack of communication this week. She isn't pissed, just confused. Doesn't want to point fingers, but doesn't like surprises.
A says she doesn't want to talk to people individually and go over it all over and over. Says as far as she is concerned, all nine can come in and talk. Says Nik talks about repetition, but she didn't have that.
Says...that's it.
Says wants everyone in the room, but they won't sit there and talk their feelings though. Nik says why not. A says some people don't like to speak their mind in a group.
A says she explained why she put the two up. Strong players. Not a threat. Has eight people to choose from. Had to put up two. Says Marv knew he was safe past two times he was up, so it is NOT his third week "on the block", no matter how he tries to play it. Saying he's a target.
A asks where they all are. Nik says in HT.
Nik says if people who trust you don;t know what you are doing, when they are with every second of the day except when in DR, that kind of negates the trust. What happened today made me go, "Why?"
A says everybody needs to be thinking. We need to get everybody in here so I can say. I'm wondering where the team stands. That's why. I'm tired of saying, Nik is cool, now what's happening. Tired of guessing how people are thinking.
Nik gets up and says she is going to try to break up some ice.
A says you can tell them A wants to talk and you can get them up in here. But it is probably not a good idea for me to just go out there.
BIG hug. Nik says she did a good job, as long as she is not selling Will up the river.
A says in a way she is glad things went the way it did. Could be what she needed to see where the team stands.
Nik says she will go break some ice. Today was the biggest misunderstanding since (the titanic). A says they don;t have to come in right now.
Nik tells her to stay true to herself. Leaves. A says, to herself...Damnit!
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Aremid
Member
07-19-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 9:07 pm
Adria tells Nat she is going to call a team meeting. They have left the HOH room. A says she is going to lay down for a few minutes, cause she can hardly keep her eyes open, and Nat is going outside.
Then Nic comes in and asks if she could talk to A for a minutes
A - I'd love for you to talk to me for a minute
(A earlier told Nat that they were out in the HT and wouldn't invite her, that they never invited her to anything - they said a lot more, but it was a lot of repeat, same ole, same ole stuff)
Nic is now in HOH room with A
First they talk about how cold it is
A - so - shoot
nac - why, why Will
A - not that i want Will gone, but it is that Will will not be gone...last minute decision...I can't protect EVERYBODY in my team, I really didn't want it to leak out to everyone in the house...when I asked you who you wanted to save...felt Will would be the safest person
Nac - says that is ok, it was a shock
A - tells her some people had come and talked to her...I'm not one to call people out, cause I think people say things in the moment...
Nic - says that if it is her, to talk to her
A - you were almost put up today because you are one of the safest people in the house...says she can't say how the people who didn't say anything to her feel about her, for example, she doesn't know how Mar feels...
A says she is going to have a team meeting
A - everybody dreams of the HOH position for different things...narrowed it down to 4 people, didn't want to involve anybody from my team including Nat, wanted my decision to only affect me...however on the other side, for my HOH and my talks of strategy with my team, that I felt totally alone, that some people did choose to speak to me, like you, and I appreciate that, and others didn't, and some people said thing that were shocking
Nic - tried to come in here just us, but when there are 3 other people
A - kinda hard...like that again this morning...make the decision on my own and not jeopardize other people in this house...something too, I need to learn from...Will sits there today...does not take time to learn from this house, and grow in this game...win veto...be alive in this house...how are you going to be in this house in 6 weeks...I told you I wasn't going to backdoor Mar...Mar deserves a freaking chance in this house as well
Nic - Mar is a good guy
A - he IS
A - I happen to be HOH and had to put two people up because that is the rules of the game...told Will if he wants to be upset...go and evaluate the situation...hope i didn't choose wrong by choosing him...thought Will could sit here and learn from the situation...there is no way I can imagine he would go home
Nic - I understand that...Nac is going to be voting the way of us, Karen, and Diane -all that might vote in favor for Mar to stay would maybe be Drew and CB
A - and I can tell you right now, you can't even count on those two for Mar
Nic - yeah, cause CB doesn't like Mar
A - hard to make people, I'm a positive player, I don't play pawns, I don't see him as a pawn, Will, I don't see Marvin as a pawn, I don't even like that Word ...really I felt Will, from a team stand point was a pinch runner
Nic - pinch hit
A compares to baseball
A - its a great place to be in...but obviously
Nic - I know that ...speaking from someone who can completely detach themselves from everything...a lot of people are really nervous because you didn't spread the word around ( says A asking who would you put up and who would you save, and I'm not going to tell you....and there's no pawn, she just wants people to leave, this game, up and down - up and down)
A - I think people need to think in this game...in my prayers this dicision came to me...how can you say you went all out for her you are...spark of life for whatever bullsh-t people think it is...if there is a word to describe it call it hard love for the team...last week in the house, felt very alone, that people don't trust me, I'll completely take this HOH on myself...
Nic - here's the deal, we know you but we don't know you, we trust you - I trust you...you were the original one and then Nat
A - the best I can say
Nic - you gotta break this finger to break that bond, or I'll break the finger for you...half of what we know isn't you, its nat- we're still trying to decide which half is Natalie and which half is A...personally from my stand point I trust you...I'm a little bit iffy at your decision...I understand better what you're trying to do
A - in a nut shell, shock to some people, don't understand why Mar is a shock...two people have to go up
Nat - Mar isn't a shock
A - who wouldn't have been a shock HMMM?
Nic - ...its the thing, I can't tell anybody, and all of a sudden that comes out..would have been better even go to Mar going up again...go to Will going up...you're a pawn, you're a pawn
A - I could have done a lot of things but I'm not going to lie...not been an awakening...thank you Jesus for opening my eyes, I'm not going to be a person who sits here and plays with my toenails for six weeks
Nic - its just people take things differently, what you may take religious as an eye opening experience...others might take is this an attack...you just need to talk to other people...you were saying so and so said this, and I had people coming telling me I should get rid of Will because he smacks and ...people don't like Mar...
A - WHAT
A says she never said Will smacks
Nic - I think you did
A says she never did
Nic ....trying to ...what you were wanting me to say
A - is this when YOU and I were talking
Nic - YES
She recounts her conversation regarding who would Nic nom and save that they had last night
Nic - in a weird way it was like you were trying to get me to say something
A - never try to get anybody to say anything...sorry I've not been in the house the whole time in six weeks like the rest of you guys...talk to you...feel like ...there is not many people that I feel I can ask what their true opinions are...asked Will, if you have a decision let me know...feel like their isn't a team anymore...only two people sitting outside the team now...
Nic - I hate how its - you get it- food, use it...I hate that sh-t ...literally you have to be planned for today to next Thursday...last week we did slack
A - last week we did slack and last week I did try to talk and people were I'm on vacation...
(A sounds VERY DEFENSIVE at times, and gets rather loud at times)
Nic - I'm sure it is hard, and i'm sure feelings can get mistrued ...as long as i know kinda where its going so that I'm not shocked I'm fine...may have said that in a moment when it was a sister and not you...after ya'll coming here, it is hard to know where and what's been said
A - I totally understand that point...that is why Nat didn't have a part in this decision...what I do already reflects on her...and she is sitting there alone...you guys are in a different boat...don't expect you guys to, you know...I don't know
Nic - speak it do, just finish your sentence
A - I just know that it takes time to build trust, and I just have not had that kind of time with everybody here, all I can do is try to bide time, or I probably would not have made the decision with either people today...why I made my decisions...I won't have any regrets for myself, if you can't be true to yourself, you will have regrets
Nic - how you just explained that to me...ya'll have only know me half the time, plus one week, you need to explain to them
A - says they always say it is OK...I don't think people can really handle me, if you want to know the truth, people can't handle it being on the line and being real
Nic - here's what people don't understand...used to this...used to that...and suddenly people come out and say ??? and theirs two of us...and we're learning to trust you..this last week we should have been bonding and all that stuff and we didn't...and I don't know why, my door was never locked except when I was locked out of it
A - do you ???? cause I was in here...I think people just maybe need to sit on things for a while
Nic - I think we need to talk, don't need to think on things...havent' been a group since there have been two A's...
A - why not
Nic - last week was a dead week, people didn't talk stategly ...I trust you and I trust Nat completely and it is whenever like stuff like this happens, you know blind faith is faith, but I dont' like blind faith, so I dont' like finding out at the last pitching second...
A - so let me ask you this then, maybe that is what we all need to do, talk about it...if the team don't know what is going on - why don't you ask
Nic - I didn't know until out in the yard
A - I'm dumbfounded, maybe it is just too soon, maybe people have too much to deal with right now, I shouldn't be in this position...I didn't know who I was going to nominate until I was stuck in here trying to figure it out
Nic says she thought it was between CB and Mar
A - I didn't know it was between CB and Mar all I heard was I want CB gone and I want Mar gone ( ed. WHAT!!!!!!!)
A - I'm not going to sit here and talk to people individually and go over the scenario over and over, I'd rather people all be in here ...honestly I think all nine people could just come sit up in this room and have a big pow wow for all that mattered...I'm just guessing - call me the new HG...
A - I knew what baggage I was already bringing, and i'm dealing with that, and that's that, and that's all I can do, that's it
SILENCE
A - and I'd rather sit here and have everybody's as-es in here - but people won't sit here and talk about how they really feel - they won't do it
Nic - why wouldn't they
A - I don't know, maybe I just - cause - some people just won't say what is on their mind, that is my best answer...they won't say it in a convicting environment...if there are other people...one on one less intimidating...I'll go walk outside and sit with everybody Mar included, doesn't matter, I explained why I put them up...both incredible players...not that it is personal, not that its pawns...and i got 8 people to put up...last week I don't count Mar put up on the block, he volunteered...don't count as the third week...I'm the third week on the block, like a target in the house...is everybody in the HT...is that what they're doing...not going to get in there by myself
Nic - they are probably out there
A - probably out by now, not going to go out there and try to get in by myself
Nic - that's why this game sucks, if people that trust you don't know what you are doing every second of the time...if they don't know what you're doing...I guess that kind of negates the trust, I don't know how other people feel...I didn't feel betrayed, I didn't feel hurt...just for the first time in the game today with you...made me go Why
A - that's good...means you are thinking...good everybody needs to be thinking...call it a personal goal then, let's just wake everybody up...see where this team stands...I'm wondering where the team stands...there's your answer...
A says she is sick of guessing about people...I can't make them do what you want them to do
Nic - don't take this too hard...going to try to break up some ice, see what everyone else is thinking
A - can tell them, A wants to get everyone together and you know who...get them all up in here...think right now...because of what is all in my head not a good idea for me to just go out there...cause you got to bite your tongue sometimes...
nic - big part of this game...
They hug
A - I appreciate it
Nic - as long as you're still cool...
A - right
A - It is totally cool...things went the way they did...thank you Lord...did what ...Adria needed to find out who her team is
Nic -are you speaking of Adria or Nadria
A - Adria, Nadria don't have a team
Nic - today is just like the hugest misunderstanding since OH an Iceburg - we'll go straight
A - if people don't want to come in here now, that's fine too
Nic - I'll give them an open invitation, don't let it get you down
A - I'm sure I'll have time to think about it
Nic - won't leave you alone too long because there are sharp objects in this room and you can break the mirror and slit your wrist
Nic leaves
A - dam-it
Nic goes outside
Nic - It was a misunderstanding from point A to point B...she said something that made me really think...we've been in here 8 weeks and she has been in here 4 and 1...so HUGE misunderstanding and she is Will is the person with the least opportunity of getting out of here...she didn't want to hurt anybody's feelings, didn't want to piss anybody off...didn't talk last week...noone really talked, they were just like, hey, we're hanging out...we feel better for now, and we get through veto, the time we feel bad or angry is after eviction
Nic - she does want to talk to everyone
I'm not sure who she is talking too
There are many at the HT, but I didn't really hear who was talking to her
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Nancypj
Member
08-17-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 9:07 pm
Nik goes out to HT and tries to talk to them about her talk with A. Karen and CB ignoring her and talking LOUDLY. Nat seems to be included in their convo. Others seem to be trying to listen to Nik. (is Diane wearing a nicotine patch?)
Nik tells them that A wants to talk to them.
Silence...
(out for a few)
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Aremid
Member
07-19-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 9:34 pm
Nic back in HOH room, they are having very similar conversation to the one they had earlier
A sounds defensive and Nic trying to explain how other people look at it
Nic - its just everybody gets in this game, and they are wound so tight and if a freaking flea farts on their coils they break
A - maybe that is why I did this way...maybemaybemaybe i've been trying to figure out what it is too, imagine a party going on and you don't know anybody there
Nic - we've been at this party from the start and technically, you and your sister just got there at the half way point, and we're all drunk and don't even notice...
You get the idea
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Aremid
Member
07-19-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 9:49 pm
Nic - I don't want you feel that everybody hates you cause they don't, and I dont' want you to feel you made a bad mistake cause you didn't...if you're doing soul searching...
A - I never had a doubt in my decision
Nic - I just want you to know people are pissed and its not anybody's singular fault
Nic - ...if I ever say anything that seems...that's me not really being there
A - I don't have a problem with you, I never have,
NIc -I just wanted you to know the house isn't against you
A - I don't feel like everyone is out to get me...the party syndrom is the best....I just feel right now, like people don't know me...if people were hurt and shocked it just makes me feel that they don't know me and don't trust me
Nic - they don't know your decision...don't think they thought you'd put up Mar and then somebody else (that isn't like Mar)
A - nobody asked me who I was putting up
Nic - don't wait to be asked all the time
A - I wasn't waiting to be asked, I pretty much spoke with everybody...I thought my decision woudl be to put up Mar and CB, my talks with Diane, Karen, you...
Nic - you made a good decision, I just think Will would have liked to have been informed...tell people what's going on...like they may not ask...even if you just go up to that one person...don't tell anyone else right now...
A - if I was 100% sure I was going to put Will up...but if someone else had known I was putting Will up they would have said something not true as to why I was putting him up
NIC - UHHHHHHH
A - had four people
Nic - didn't want to tell 4 people what was goin on
A - I had 4 people to work down from...when I was kidnapped...how am I supposed to know in a day, when I've been here the past week to talk about it more and people didn't want to talk about it....and Will is if people are saying different things in this house....who cares about that...if people are saying different stuff, you go what can i do to predict the situtation....what can i do to protect the people...I'd been through enough
A refers to the situation with the guys that she went through...said OK, fine next week if I get hoh I won't put you up Scott...the minute that was said, he walked out of the room...Will came back and told me ...if you don't know you might as well not even say, it gets construed...tied down with alliance to the blood thirsty end...that day we were sitting in the living room...do what you guys need to do...I KNOW certain speculations are going to get made around the house...today I just thought I had to make a decision, cause it was OK, whatever you decide, of course some people were more opinionated than others, I'll give them that...I just felt like Will was the least worry in the house, I was wrong I think, why else would the house be so worried with that...
Nic - the weirdness and the secretiveness...I don't know...I don't want to say anything that's not real, don't like being a translator for that reason....now that I know why you put Will up I could care two sh-ts less
A - I appreciate you spending time and talking to me
Nic - instead of venting to a camera
A - don't even talk to that...they aren't playing the game
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Aremid
Member
07-19-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 10:01 pm
Mar and Will talking
Mar said he made waves when he came in the house, played the game the way it was supposed to be played, people like K doing nothing
Mar - if lightning hit and I'm in here, who am I gonna talk to...ain't got nothing to do whatsoever....can't listen to CB...talking about tv...Early Show, Late Show, who gives a sh-t
Will laughs
Mar - Drew got the fing personality of a armrail, handrail...pretty to look at that's all it is...I ain't heard five words come out of that fing mouth yet...after the twin thing, to tell you the truth, I said this is a tv show more than a game show, when you decide HOH by that sh-t we did yesterday...fing entertaining
One of the twins comes and asks Will if he is drinking
Will says it is too late, it'll keep him up, and they can have his, but he asks what they gave them, then he decides to have a glass of red wine
Twin - she says no you can't
Will - what???I'm just going to have one little slip
Will - oh , Lord he is making burger again
Nic - once again the red wine has the real cork and the white wine has the faux cork
Will - OH Jesus
Will goes back out
Will -seriously man, at this point
Mar - if your as- ain't here, who got personality, hey come on, its ridiculous
Will - there are some nice people here, but nobody that is going to keep me here much longer, i knew coming in here that it wasn't going to be a long run...just glad its lasted as long as it had
Mar - I knew it would be me or Jase last week...get your publicity...somebody asked me aren't you going to fight...I will make whatever business decision I can make for me, when I get out of here as far as my career go
Will - I have been around entertainment all my life in NY and you are one of the people
Mar - I appreciate that man...about 3700 bucks afer tax right now...I got in this for money, not for fame...I ain't got no money, everybody want me to buy their a-s a drink, I can't even buy myself a drink...I put everything in the Lord's hands, took my hands off the steering wheel...if I'm the first one in sequester...Lori got the best deal
Will - she got the best deal out of everybody
Mar - nobody to talk to and playing solitaire...that's the hand I was dealt, so I'll play along with it...yeah, she got the sweet deal
Nic comes out
Will - what did you make
Nic - Sangria
(I'm out - have fun all)
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 10:09 pm
FISH (Marvin was talking about his BB interview, how he would play the game.)
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 10:21 pm
Cam 1/2: Marvin complaining to Adria in the backyard. Will and Nakomis are also there.
Marvin says he defended Adria against Jase. He says there are better nominees like people sleeping together. Marvin says he has no alliance. (He is not holding back.)
Adria tells Marvin he wanted Marvin to have a chance, doesn't want to backdoor him (like the 6F plan against Jase). Both Will and Marvin have a chance for veto.
Will interrupts and says Marvin isn't really "hating on" Adria.
Marvin says he doesn't know who to pick for veto. Adria resents Marvin characterizing the nominations as "the black guy and the gay guy".
Marvin asks if the Bible told Adria to pick him. Adria says the Bible is part of her beliefs. She is tired of people bringing it up in the game.
Adria says something like this decision will reflect on Adria. (She likes to refer to herself in the third person.)
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Nancypj
Member
08-17-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 10:23 pm
Middle of convo.
A with Will and Marv outside.
A says she is tired of seeing people throw games. Wants to see people play. Tells Marv that if it wasn't her, could be someone else backdooring him next week. Says it was suggested to her that she backdoor Marv, and she wouldn't do it.
Marv says he probably would go next week, Doesn't have an ally in this house. Doesn't know who to pick for veto tomorrow.
Marv tells her that she could have found a stronger alliance in the house than the gay dude and the black dude.
A says she put up Will and Marvin. Doesn't like the labels he put on them. Says it is an unfair shot to put on her.
Marv asks her if the bible told her to do it. She says it was her own decision. The bible does play a part in her life.
Marv says then maybe Jesus doesn't want him in the life.
She says the bible plays a big thing in the house this year. Doesn't like how it is thrown around. Marv says he just wanted to be sure the bible didn't tell her to put him up It might know something he doesn't.
Will says he doesn't want anyone to say something they don't mean.
Marv says he doesn't even have a damn ally.
A says anybody she put up todcay would be upset. Just wanted to be sure he knows that what decisions were made today were made by her. Doesn't want something she does to roll back on anyone else in the house.
(They are talking fast. Doing my best to paraphrase. Nik is there too, watching.)
Marv talks of playing by his own rules...
Silence for a moment.
Marv asks how Will's wine is. he says it is fine. Marv says he is the designated driver tonight.
Will says he is really an actor. Nik asks if he is a Brad Pitt body double. A mentions weight gain. Nik says she gained some too. Happy about that.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 10:25 pm
Cam 1/2: Conversation in backyard takes lighter turn.
Will joking that he's really an actor. They're talking about their weight.
Nakomis got eight beers tonight.
Adria goes off to get a beer.
Marvin apologizes if he made Will and Nak uncomfortable. Will says he was just about to bust out laughing. Marvin says Adria doesn't know what's going on.
Marvin asks what the funniest part was. Will says it was: "Did Jesus tell you who to put up? The black guy and the gay guy." Nakomis is also laughing.
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Morning_magic
Member
07-03-2004
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 10:37 pm
Quad:
1 & 2 - Will, Marv, Nak talking about Adria. M says she talked to him like he was a 4-year old. M saying Jase has been trying to get him out since the beginning. M making fun of A saying Jesus made her put them up.
Feed switches to Twins and Drew in HOH talking. A saying again why she put up M and W. BB calls A to the diary room.
3 & 4 - Fish cam.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 10:38 pm
Cam 1 switches to Adria, Drew, and Diane in HOH.
Cam 2 audio switches also (still showing W/M/N).
Adria explaining to Drew and Diane her nominations. Drew brings up Marvin's "discrimination" complaint.
Adria says it's Marvin's fault he doesn't have any alliance after 7 weeks in the house. She says Will is safer than Fort Knox, everyone she talked to says so. (Repeating the same themes from her talk with Nakomis.)
Cam 2 is back to backyard (so I'll stick with it).
Marvin says A(?) slipped and said she read a book during her switch sequestration (supposed to be illegal). He thinks A was talking to him like a four-year old, like A was a teacher and Marvin f'ed up in school.
Marvin says this is the first time the game has become personal, even more than his blow-up with Jase. Nakomis says "Jesus made me do it." (sarcastic)
Marvin: "(Will) You're a pawn, cause Jesus didn't tell me about you."
(ARGH. Switch back to HOH.)
Adria is surprised how house has reacted to Will's nomination. Diane says it shows where "they" stand. Drew asks, "Those three?"
BB asks Adria to go to the DR. (Natalie is done.)
Adria: "Good thing next week, I just get to sit back and watch.)
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Nancypj
Member
08-17-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 10:38 pm
A leaves.
Will says he was about to bust out laughing.
They are busting on A. Nik acting as if she is with them and agrees. They all laugh. All being really mean.
Cam to HOH. Diane and A. A telling what Marv said. Says it was surprising but not surprising. Says she has a different mentality about things.
Drew comes in and hugs her.
A says she loves being her. Says she has now used the bible to rid the house to rid the house of the black guy and they gay guy. Says it was a cheap shot.
Drew says Marv said the same thing outside.
A says she could scream about discrimination. Doesn't know if she will get everyone in there to talk, but the house is so small, whatever she says will get around.
Tells Di and Drew the whole reason thing she has said before (everyone have a chance...no backdoor)
MArv out there screaming about allies. What has he been doing for seven weeks? Get some allies!
I took this on as my decision because it WILL affect the house. When I am a sitting duck next week, I'll take it for the team. Tonight I will let things rear up as they will. Let them be. No matter what, from this point forward, HOH is going to get people mad. Will is safe in this house. I don't know why that is so upsetting, him being up.
She says she had four people to go through. Talked to everyone individually, but people didn't get together as a team. I've only been in the house a week. I didn;t have seven weeks to be myself.
They tell her to trust her decision.
Back outside. Telling Nik what A told them. Nik again seemingly with them and agreeing....(ed - I am very disappointed). Marv talking about she was in a hotel room reading a book. He asks if she was on PBJ. Nik says no, she had TV. (Ed - did she? I thought Julie told us that they were on the same diet and all that the others were, and same conditions).
Marv says like she is a damn teacher and I'm in school. Nik says she refuses to vote. Marv says he would hate to be in sequester. Says he and Jase had an argument, but they were cool at the end.
Back to HOH. Diane says she is where she needs to be with this, but if she sees her doing her busines...
A says she wishes Nat was in there too. She is surprised what she has been hearing from a household standpoint. Doesn't know why Will being up is such a threat.
Diane says if they were as tight with us as they SHOULD be, they wouldn't be upset. A asks, you mean W/K/Nik. They say yes.
A says she chose Will because she thought he could take the shock and be OK.
A called to DR.
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Nancypj
Member
08-17-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 10:53 pm
Nat and Drew now in HOH. Reliving the burger game. They agree that if they had done less mustard and catsup, they could have done one more burger.
They say it was a fun game. Will probably look funny on TV.
Back outside.
Will telling Nik and karen that A will try to cut a deal with Marvin and vote out Will. Nik says that Diane and Drew talk to Marvin and like him. She tells them that A told Marv that people wanted to backdoor him. They talk about who they told her they wanted to get rid of. Will says she demanded a name (a lie -- I saw it. She told him to tell her only if he was comfortable).
K says A did the same thing to Scott.
Will says he will not use the veto to save himself. Marv and he agreed they won't use it. K says do you know how hard it would be for Marv to not use veto and go home? Will says he can convince him.
Nik (sarcastically) says you are not a pawn. But you are just put up because you won't go. Will says that is what she told him while she was crying.
Will says he is satisfied. If he are Marv walk out the door, one is left. They will get "those b*tches". She has opened a can of worms. Bit off more than she can chew.
Will says if CB got HOH and put him up, no problem. They have never had a conversation. Never made a commitment.
Nik says she told Diane what was going on. She wouldn't have had a problem with it if A had come up to Will and at least hinted he MIGHT have gone on the block.
Will says he was not put on the show to be made a jack#ss of. Starts singing...fish.
Nik says she doesn't understand how everybody else...Nat maybe doesn't even understand it.
Will says if she hadn't put him up, she would have had at least 2-3 weeks smooth sailing. Nik says A told her she was gonna put her up but couldnt, then started talking about something else. Nik says she wants to find out what she meant. Will says she wans't going to put Nik up.
Will says if he gets HOH, it will be both of them up. (ed - sin't that what he and K were planning??) They can fight over the veto. Says they should throw it.
Nik says at first it made so much sense why she did it.
Will says but we were all in there last night. We were all looking at her to see if she would initiate anything, but she didn't. She is lying out her ass. ••••• from hell. I can't look at her anymore.
Nik says she will give her half the benefit of the doubt until eviction day, unless one of us leaves. Unless it is her...
Will says if it IS you, I will stand up and say b*tch, it's on.
Now Will telling why he loves Marvin so much.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 10:53 pm
Cam 2:
Natalie and Drew in HOH. They are going over the food comp.
(switches to backyard, only Will, Nakomis, and Karen)
Will thinks A may make a deal with Marvin.
Karen says what she overheard about Adria (Natalie) making a deal with Scott. Nakomis can't quite remember what Adria said about this, something like Adria couldn't trust her.
Will says he will not use the veto. He thinks it was a choice between him and Drew to go against Marvin.
Karen has gone to get a drink.
Will and Nak continue ragging on Adria (can't capture it all). Will would not b*tch about it if it was CB who put him up because they weren't on the same team. They both say Adria should have warned Will.
They start singing: "Jesus hates little William, all the f*ggots of the world ..."
FISH
Will says A now knows if she had put up CB instead, she would have had 2 or 3 more weeks of smooth sailing. Will says he had his doubts about A but he would have gotten rid of the Boys first.
Will says if he stays and becomes HOH, he will put both twins and tell them who to decide between themselves who's going to go.
Nakomis says the more A tries to explain, the more she doesn't make sense.
Will is ranting now: "She's f'ing lying to my face. B*tch from hell. I don't even want to see her face any more." If Nakomis, Karen, or Diane leave next week, he will tell twins "You better hope I don't get HOH" on live TV. Nakomis will do likewise.
Will has to go to bathroom but asks Nakomis to stay outside.
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Starr
Member
08-11-2004
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 10:56 pm
Nakomis and Will in backyard totally dissing A. Will says he won't use veto if he gets it, he thinks he can talk Marvin into using it and then A would put up Drew. Will continues on saying either Marvin will be here next week or I'll be here next week and then "b!tches better watch their back" because there'll be a whole lot of mad people here.
Will says if he gets HOH next week, you'd better beleive it one of the twins is gone, "I'll say it straight off, it'll be the best damn tv you've ever had, one of you is gone" Nakomis says the more A tries to explain herself, the more it doesn't make sense. Will says A is lying out her ass, trying to make amends for being the b!tch from hell. Nakomis says she's going to give A the benefit of the doubt.
Will says if Nakomis, Karen or Diane walk out on Thursday, he's going to get right in A's face and say "you'd better hope I don't get HOH, B!tch!"
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 11:08 pm
Cam 2 switches to HOH. Karen has joined Nat, Diane, and Drew.
Back to backyard. Will has come back out.
Will doesn't understand it but is excited because he's made the most good sound bites in a while.
Will again says he won't use veto and thinks Marvin won't either.(!) He thinks it's time for Karen to (?).
Natalie joins them. She feels people are acting weird towards her. She didn't know what Adria was going to do (not true). Natalie is crying now (gets hug from Will). She thinks A was trying to be nice, was about to put up Natalie against Marvin. She says A put up who she thought could handle it.
Will and Nakomis say if she only said something ahead of time. Will says he felt "team" all the while, until today.
Karen has joined them (and also gives crying Natalie a hug).
(Everyone talking too fast)
Will and Nakomis keep trying to say A should have given heads-up.
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Nancypj
Member
08-17-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 11:12 pm
Karen kissing butt in HOH. A in there, Drew and Diane. Nat too.
Will had gone to WC, now back outside.
Nik says the house is insane. Half the people in it are frikkin retarded.
Will says people in here think they can screw people and get away with it. Nik agrees.
Will says (again) if A had at least told him why he was going up, it would be OK.
Nik says in this game, I thought you chilled with people you wanted to be with...I just don't get it.
Will says he has probably come up with the best sound bites tonight. She is gonna get out and it is gonna be funny as hell.
Nik says when Drew put her up, it was OK because she wasn't with him.
Will repeats that he won't take himself off block. Will talk to Marv and things he can convince him too. Thinks Marv wants out anyhow. Karen will have to "sac up"
Nat comes out. Will goes to get beers. Nik asks what;s up.
Nat says people are acting like they are mad at her. Nik says, don;t you know you ARE A? (sarcastic).
Will comes back. She tells him that honestly, A did what she did because of what she said. Will is safe. A didn;t talk to her about it.
Starts REALLY crying. Will and Nik ACTING really nice (ed - don't want to hear what they say when she leaves...)
Nat saying A is the nicest person, most loyal, team player.
Will says it would have been easier if he'd had a clue.
She says all A asked her only who she wanted out. All she wanted to know from her. She told her CB and Marv, Marv first. Nat says she thought Will would have been calmer about it. Then she saw his eyes.
Will says the thing of it is, he has felt team in everything until today. Big time. Nat asks WHO would vote him out?
They say it isn't about that. Just wanted the slightest of hints. (ed - just to clarify from earlier today...A gave Will MORE than the slightest of hints that he or one of them might go up.)
Will says she is going to have to take something. Putting him up was like calling him out. Nat says they have been planning this order for WEEKS. Reminds them of the backup plan -- if target goes off, replace with second target.
Nat says she doesn't know how different it would be if they had all been eating and not been sick.
HOH now.
Diane telling Drew that right now, they think that she is 100% there. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Drew says that unless things get cleared up between A and Will, and if Will goes, next week the twins are up.
CB comes in and tells them that Nat is outside crying.
Drew says he just wants to go to sleep and wake up tomorrow.
Diane asks if anyone is out there with Nat. CB says W/K/Nik.
Sounds like Drew mentions his guys getting on him too.
CB says he loves this game (sarc.). Says this game, you have to become really good friends with people and them put them on the block.
Di says people don't realize this has to be done. They say it isn;t personal. It IS personal. A is the first person who has to put up two people we all like and get along with.
Drew says everyone is in shock right now. Tomorrow will be...
Diane says after the veto comp, everything could change.
CB says none of them can imagine what goes through your head when you are put up on the block.
Drew says Marv is a good sport. But from now on, when people are on the block, it is going to hurt feelings.
CB asks if Will knew before ceremony.
Di says no, A decided not to tell anyone. Didn;t want anyone to think it was a group decision.
CB says just like Drew. Drew says, and look what happened to me. He reminds her of what happened to him. Says it was really bad.
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Nancypj
Member
08-17-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 11:18 pm
Back to Nat/Nik/W. Karen just left.
They are all still talking about what A thought. And why they are upset because it was a surprise.
Will says that is the reason she told her. Says that when eh talked to her alone, she told him it was because she didn't feel the team and he was a real nomination (ed - argh! That isn't what she told him. He took it out of context...)
Will says everyone should vote their heart. He loves Marvin to death.
Yet again Will says he is fine...
Cam 2 shows someone in a dark room, in bed. Marv?
Nat saying A was trying not to piss anybody off. Nik and Will say she tried too hard.
(okay -- rehash time. taking a break...)
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 11:26 pm
Cam 2 switches to Diane and Drew in HOH. Diane has headphones on but is talking.
Diane just said she thinks W/N/K still think they're on their side. "Is that good or bad?"
CB comes in and tells them Natalie is outside crying. Diane and Drew say it's a twin thing, sticking up for her sister.
CB: "I love this game."
Drew: "It's getting harder and harder."
Diane says they all get along and A had to put someone up and they need to be good sports about it.
CB asks if Will knew before ceremony. Diane says no, that Adria kept it to herself and she can understand it. CB says Drew did the same thing and similar stuff happened.
CB and Drew leave Diane alone.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 11:31 pm
Cam 2 switches to Drew in Cloud Room then to backyard. Natalie is still sniffling.
Nakomis asks Nat if she'd prefer to be surprised. Nat tells them she thought everyone knew what was happening. Will says A told him she didn't know who to trust. (Oops.) Nat backs off and says everyone should get together and talk about it.
Will tries to play that he's not upset and is okay with going. Nakomis thinks A tried too hard not to p*ss anybody off.
Will says how hard he and Karen fought for Adria to stay, how to work Drew and Scott.
Natalie tries to make Will look at nomination like a spotlight.
(Helicopter is buzzing overhead.)
(Sorry, it's hard to capture because Natalie is rambling and is crying a lot.)
BB asks Drew to go to the DR.
Diane joins them. CB, A, and Karen go out.
Natalie says she will play for veto and will save Will and ask A to put her up.
Will goes to bathroom and Diane follows.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 11:40 pm
Cam 2: Nat, CB, Karen, Will, and Nakomis in backyard.
A comes back.
Nakomis says, "Iceberg made out of an ice cube."
Adria says she tore up in the DR. She was probably crying at the same time as Natalie. (joking)
Diane joins them.
Will says he started out not drinking tonight but has now done 1 glass of win and three beers.
(Wasn't watching but CB is not there.)
Will wants to have group meeting. They will wait for Natalie. Nakomis doesn't want this to happen again. Adria explaining decision: she wanted it to be her sole decision, she thought Will would be safest, she didn't want to backdoor CB and Marvin.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 11:52 pm
Cam 1/2 switches to CB and Natalie in bathroom.
Natalie is upset at Nak/Will complaining that they should have been informed. Natalie thinks it's because they just want Adria to do what they want.
CB says a lot of stuff was revealed tonight. He's reassuring Nat that he is the least of their (twins') worries. He will protect them the best he can. He says he was honest with Nat when she (as A) asked if she had a chance (against Holly).
CB says this game's going to get worse.
CB and Nat think good people like them make others uncomfortable. CB relates how someone threw his stuff in high school. He got teased a lot. He's had a hard life.
Natalie asks if CB heard any comments about him seeing his Dad's picture. She says people were jealous that she got to see her Mom's picture.
CB says he doesn't know if Nakomis will put him up. Natalie tells him he has to fight for HOH. CB says he will and he has someone else in mind.
They hug. CB tells her not to think it's over for them.
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Nancypj
Member
08-17-2001
| Friday, August 13, 2004 - 11:55 pm
Now A is outside. Both she and Nat are crying. Nik talking and saying it is all cool.
Cam flips to Will and Di in BR. She tells Will that everybody is crying. Will says he needs another beer.
Back outside. Nik saying communication problems. K says everything is being blown out of proportion.
Nik says they feel like they have known them for seven weeks.
Will says he doesn't want anyone to think he thinks he is above being on the block.
Nat says she has been a twin for 30 years. Talking about how things get attributed to both of them all the time. Shouldn;t expect it to be differnet in the house.
Nik says today they made an iceberg out of an icecube.
A came back out and asked what she missed. Nik says they are all insane houseguests. Talk of twins crying at the same time.
NOW appears all is well with GPA...
Will says he started off not drinking, now on a glass of wine and three beers.
A gives Will a hug. Says 'That's my Will. I call you Big Will.'
Will says let's all sit down and chat. Nik says if there is a decision to be made, let's make an announcement right after it. This can't happen ever again.
A says she wants to tell them where her decision came from. Tells them she wanted to find out where the team was because she didn;t know where SHE was because htere wasn't a pow wow. repeats the whole her decision thing, not reflect thing. Nat didn't know what was going down. Made Will decision based on what he said yesterday. He told her he would save someone from their team. Thought he was a strong team player. If Marv wants to win a veto and take himself off, he deserved the chance.
Cam to bathroom.
Nat crying to CB. She tells him he is cool as crap. Talking about how others at table were ripping into her and A. Nat says there is no right way of doing things.
CB says they have said so much stuff today...it's BS. He told Diane that putting them up (A and Nat) isn't right. Talk about Nik and CB and not putting each other up. He says he told A that he did not have a problem with them (twins). Whispers something about protecting them. Says he has seen so much BS today, he knows he has seen some real people today.
He tells her she is a human same as they are. She laughs she knows. He says game is going to get worse. CB tells her if he wins HOH next week, she is safe. She is still crying.
Nat says she took this challenge on. She is glad to be here. He got his challenge the first week. Nat says she will not throw back in people's face the things she has done to save them.
(missed some)
Cb says y'all deserve it as much as me. She says he is awesome. She tells him he has a confident air about him, and some people don't like that. He says he gets teased all the time. She says you have to look past things and see they are people.
CB says he was teased in hgih school. Gang threw his Trapper Keeper in a creek. He's not a fighter. He says he gets teased that he's happy, he's gay. He's had a hard life, but he had been able to better himself.
She asks him if people said anything about him seeing a picture of his dad. He says no. She says they told her that she got to see a picture of her mom, so it like she won HOH.
People kept telling him that his sister wouldn't put him up. How could he know?
Nat asks him if he will (something) for Adria. He says he will.
Big hug. He tells her it is OK. She thanks him.
Cam outside.
A talking to W/K/D/Nik. She says that she doesn't mind the hits. Maybe she don't know no different. Marv can sit there and hit her. He can act like he saved her. Will can say things, bring it on.
Will says he has been called que#r, f$g, I can take this.
A says Marv said a cruel and untrue statement out here. That revealed a true thing. Will says he loves Marv, it was out of line, but that's Marv.
Happy thoughts all around...
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